I know we are all on the edge of our seat when it comes to 8th edition 40k, and today at Adepticon, GW took no time to take things slow. Jumping right into some of the changes coming! There you have the new rules told by Games Workshop for 8th edition during AdeptiCon! A brief summary:.
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Re: Codex Apocalipsis Maracapi Marinero 25 mensajes Re: Codex Apocalipsis Gonfrask Almirante mensajes Resumen en ingles del librico, de mano de Dakkadakka And i have to say, the game is very, very cool.
They had a prerelease copy of the book at my store today and were running demo games. While everyone else was playing, i had the book to myself and wen through it cover to cover. I do not remember everything, but i got a lot of it stored away in my head, not i just need to drudge it back out Please forgive any spelling or grammar errors, i am tired as hell and hung over, too lazy to edit this all that thouroughly at the moment. Bur here goes: Rules: First off, the basic game is unchanged.
You use the exact same rules for Apoc as you do normal 40K. There are only a few, small changes to streamline the game. But in terms of combat, shooting, etc. In my opinion, that is a good thing as it keeps things running smoothly and the way we are used to playing. Set up is handled thusly: both sides agree to meet in advance with x amount of points on each side. All players should have there stuff ready to go ahead of time, with army lists etc.
Points only need to be roughly equal. For every full points difference, the side with less points gets a stratagem. Also, each army gets a stratagm for each player on their side, so two on two with one side fielding less points would result in two stratagems for the bigger army, and 4 for the smaller. Therefore, you usually end up with a diagnol deployment zone, but one side can be bigger than the other by quite a bit, or it could end up being prefectly diveded in half.
It makes for a funky but fun and different deployment zone every game. From that line, you extend a 6 inch no mans zone in both directions, therefore giving you a 12" zone along the dividing line where no one can deploy without a special stratagem or rule. After this, each player puts down three objectives, one in their deployment zone, one in no man's land, and one in the opponants zone. Another thing i like and that is pretty fun, is that once both players have determines sides by dicing, each team writes down a number from one to thirty as a wager for how many minutes they are willing to take for set up, and then places it face down on the table.
Once both players have done so, they are turned face up and whoever wagered the lower number deploys second but only has x amount of minutes to do so, but also gets to go first. It makes for a good laugh and further encourages the social and fun aspect of the game.
WHen you only have 5 minutes to deploy 10K points you dont always make the best tactical desicions, but you do get first turn. One of the stratagems you can buy is forcing your opponants to not speak to one another or comminicate in any way during their deployment which is very funny since they can not coordinate their game plan. Once both sides have set up, the game begines and goes until a designated time, at which point the game is over once both players have had an equal amount of turns to play.
Whoever has the most objectives wins, no VP's to tally up. Scoring units within 12" of the objective take it. There are stratgems which keep a unit scoring to the last man, tanks scoring even if immobilized, etc.
They are very cool additions to the game and some of them are pretty off the wall like anti plant bombs 2nd ed anyone?
They remind me a lot of some of the stuff from the old 2nd ed box with the strategy cards. Also, the books gives rules for super heavies, gargantuan creatures and flyers as well as the stats for a ton of them in the book.
Gargantuan creatures are nasty, they can move 12" fire everything at different targets and are strength D in HtH. They roll three dice for difficult terrain and can reroll the results. They are insnae on the stat line too, like tough 8 with 10 wounds, etc. No mass points anymore, just wounds.
They also ignore all pyschic attacks that do not directly cause damage. Superheavy vehicles move 6" and fire everything at different targets it they wish. They can go through terrain and dont get immobilzed by it.
The destruction table is horrendous! The table is, stunned, weapon destroyed, damage to engines i cant rememner the exact term, but it cuts your movement in half, a second result is weapon destroyed , destroyed, explodes 2D6" [Wink] , and appocolyptic explosion 6D6" Str 9 AP2!
In our game, a Baneblade blew up like this and kill about 70 or so models, something insane. Also, there are three types of fields, power, void and holo. Power fields are Orky, and are armor 12 and go down to a glancing or pen hit. Neither filed works within 12". Flyers are amazing! They start in reserve, and comeon anywhere on the board. Each turn they can leave the board back into reserve, or move anywhere on the table as long as it was more than 36" from where they started.
They always count as shooting at side armor to represent the top armor of a vehicle and ignore all terrrain for the purposes of shooting unless it is area terrain and the target is in it.
That means they can hit anything on the board in range. Also, they can drop the four leaf clover template as a bomb atack, or the giant flamer template as a napalm style bomb, so long as they are equiped to do so most of them are.
They can always move if they get a crew stunned result, but all immobilized results destroy them and the model is just gone, it doenst crash on the table or anything.
All ground units need a 6 to hit them, they can only be glanced and range is reduced by 12". AA guns, ignore the 6 to hit and the range reduction, and hit on normal BS instead. If the flyer can carry troops, and those troops are jumptroops, they may jump out of the tranport during any portion of its movement phase and deeptrike onto the table, very cool!
In this mode, it counts as a scoring unit normal flyers do not but now is treated just as if it were a skimmer for targeting and shooting and movement. In this mode, non jump troop units may hop out, and in some cases, transported vehicles may get out and drive off! Reserves are handled SO much better. Half come on on turn two, half on turn three, of your choice. I wish normal 40K went this way. Certain stratagems allow you to place units in reserve intentinally and then have them come on on any board edge.
Layout and Approach The game very strongly emphasizes fun, not competetive play. The rules are written in the same way you would talk to a buddy, full of jokes and tips. The tell you flat out to make up any house rules you want if it suits you, such as allowing only one of a named special character, etc.
Threre are literally no force org charts. There are a ton of sample armies with some crazy stuff, like a bug army with 6 hive tyrants and hundred of little bugs. Another was a Sister army with marines and a squad of harlies. There are a ton of pictures in the book too, and some really cool, off the wall armies in there, plus some crazy boards set up that have bridges conecting seperate sections, etc.
Very cool visually. I would honestly say the book is worth it for the art and inspiring pictures alone. There are a ton of new, fun armies in thee to check out. After the rules section which is very brief they go into ideas for game play and then into the background for each army.
There is a some cool and entertaining fluff for EACH army in the book. The data sheet section is extensive, some armies get the short end of the stick unfortunately, like nothing for deamonhunters or sisters, which is a bummer, and only one entry for some armies like dark eldar.
They did say, however, that they would be constantly coming up with new ones for all armies avialable for free on line. Datasheets This was the fun part. A datasheet contains a detachment of troops that use special rules. It can be as simple as a superheavy, a named superheavy, or a collection of units that get a special bonus such as the Ork dread mob, etc.
Most of us are familiar with these by now, so i will go over them fairly briefly to give a taste of what they do, or the more exciting ones. Baneblade: tough armor cant go into too many stats, dont want to get anyone in trouble but just like a demolisher with better rear armor, the main cannon is strength D, 10" blast, and if the whole is over terrain, the terrain is blown apart too!
Far more powerful than the forgeworld vehicle. Yarrick's baneblade gives rerollable Ld 10 to all IG in 12" and makes Orks run away or something similar. The Hellhammer fires the big boom stick, but at a shorter range and ignore cover saves.
The giant sentinal squad is cool and can redploy once per game anywhere on board. Bassie companies can fire a ranging shot first and then all other bassies may choose to atuomatically hit that point wihout scattering. All imperial aircraft are in, and the hellstrike missles are now unlimited range! The valkyrie and vulture will be very very useful to IG now, i know ill be getting some to make air cav for my boys.
The orc baneblade is flipping awesome! It is a fast yes fast vehicle, open topped with one point worse front armor, but it carries 30 orcs!
It lacks some guns the normal bainblade has, but still packs a wallop. The stompa in the new WHite Dwarf is the real stompa and seeing more pics, i like it now. The stompa will be released too, along with codex orks, it is not a pipe ream. Also, the thing is so cool! The "psycho dakka blasta" is a gun the fires once per game, but it is Str 7 Ap3.
It is a giant gattling shoota that is heavy 2d6. There are two versions of it, the second being the big mek version the stomp with no horns in the white dwarf that is the same basic vehicle but has a lifta dropps instead!
Like little choppers, and every third or so bike has a unique body. The Ork warboss on bike is mean looking, with a sleeker bike and a big power claw.
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Parece que por fin podre confirmar si eres el tio que gritaba mucho en los torneos. En caso de vehiculos es lo que mas me impacta del todo, si resulta una arma destruida y obtienes otra vez le resultado de arma destruida resulta inmovilizado y si queda inmovilizado dos veces se considera destruido Sobre el pdf en si Demasiadas cositas que no cuadran o que suenan muy complicadas. Buscando por internet no he tenido suerte pero ha habido alguna edicion que uno de los 2 ejercitos de la caja inicial no fuera marines?